simulator" frex " home made in France ...

I have a lot of problem to resolve the software, effects and speed, the simulator goes too fast or not enough.
I just made the tests with the 24 acceleration.

I do not know how to set the inercie, speed of slow / fast / normal.

I do not know how to adjust the sensitivity knob.

is there a recommended setting, medium?

Hi Riton,

I'm watching you try make it work some time now, and struggling for some answers...

I wish I could, but I can't really help you cause the interfaces you use are a lot different from mine, and pneumatics are not my preference for many reasons.

:?


Regards, Thanos

thank you for responding

when I saw the video Simhawk, I am told that it is possible to get there.
simhawk-s-motion-simulator-t597-60.html
but I can anything good, it is impossible to settle for me!
I think all sell on ebay ...

Where you stuck now?
How many pieces of valve (5/3 middle close) you have ?
Tryed to slow down the movement with airflow control throttle? (in the air output)
One pair valve to very slow movement, second pair to normal speed, all together to fast movements.

As I have told you several times before. Your construction is too heavy. Either reduce the weight and mass inertia by cutting off the front part with wheel and pedals, or use cylinders with bigger diameters.

How large is the air tank ?

air tank:
50 L
My cylinder is 65mm in diameter, the rod is 20mm
you think that this is not enough for all?
if you think it's not good, i will cut the structure...


now i have 4 valves 5/3 middle close.
and I have 8 valves to adjust the speed
placed such Simhawk:
simhawk-s-motion-simulator-t597-80.html

I have a problem with speed.
slow is too slow, fast is too fast.

the simulator comes not to go forward, it turns outwards. see my vidéos....

My simulator does not move in a linear fashion
what happens if I put potentiommètre under the seat, not better?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ritonriton39
i have just the effect 24, accélération, wih the simulator turn?
view points, the simulator does not move right, there is just an axis


I had 2 PC before and I had a big problem réactivity . i had my PC connected to my router is not good at all.
it does not work with 2 PC on the network
Now I have 1 PC is better

look at this vidéo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9JYrq3604&feature=channel_page
i have just effect 24 acceleration
look at the red dot it turn wih?

i see this post:
post6532.html?hilit=%20ic1%20remove#p6532
i need to change a key in registry??

profiler 2 is better for my frex design pneumatic simulator??
to reduce inertia, what do you think to put a spring under the seat in the center uround the silentbloc?
i m sorry , i have a lot of question, I try to understand his own, but it is difficult

I cut my simulator.
with 2 distributor is better, easier to adjust, but not top, the simulation was still running.

with 4 valve is such that before.
slow speed, the simulator does not move.
in normal, it moves too slowly.

and rapidly move it too fast.

I have a problem with speed.
my matrice is bad with speed?

4 bar is good in tank?

The 65mm diameter cylinder its ~33 cm² , (1 bar = 1 kp/cm2 ) with 4 bar, its about 132kp Force. About 130kg weight to move your simulator. 4 bar its still enough.
Not the software define your simulator speed, its the valve airflow limit. The program chooses one from the three defined only.
Start with the slow speed valve. Set it manually, use the button (bottom on the valve) or directly control it. For the bigger velocity, open the air flow control a little bit.
When its done, the slow and the medium opened valve together is the fast. Reduce the medium, and you made the fast one decrease by this.

That the simulator moves into a bad direction, it because he controls bad valves. Maybe try the X-Sim², the new was easier for me, better to understand.

In the attachment, you see the labeled airflow limiters, still enough only one piece if join the exit. (I will need him later if i get an another pair of valves.)

i test only with 4 distributor , for the first test i don't put air flow limiter, and simulator dont moove in low or normal speed!

with normal speed is too low but it moove.

if i put air flow limiter simulator dont moove .
i dont find a good solution to regule speed.


i test with a lot of position air flow limiter , it was not good in all position

I connected my speed limiter as shown in attachment.
I gathered échapenent distributor of slow, I connected a limiter
same for the normal speed.
it seems easier to solve, but I have the same problem;
sometimes the simulator does not move (no relay control)
when it moves, it goes slowly, and too far from the target.

I feel it does anything.

Please create a photo from your valve, limiters, etc. There is some problem what we not see.

I try to adjust the software and valves since 1 months, I had nothing really!
I'm not stupid, there must be a big problem somewhere.

2 distributor with a single speed, it will be not too bad, but I am very far from the result of simhawk!

I cut the simulator is not better, I have the same problem.
I am disheartened: (

I tried every possible combination with the limiter air flow, the result is the same every time.

my matrice configuration:


how I should adjust the software sim X?
the sensitivity of the potentiometer?, inertia?
pulser mode or not?
can we resume the settings so that if I compare it good?

You don't need the pulse mode, you have 8 valve, 3 speed.
Pulse mode for 4 valve, 1 speed (+1 speed with pulsing, not to good) (like me, now)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96XxMxAfR9I

I see your valve, but i dont see trough it (my fault).
Make sure, you have a 4 airflow limiter, 1 for every pair valve. 2 valve with normal flowreduce, and 2 with big/cylinder.

if I move the joystick with simlulateur is like you, I can various the speed.
the directions are good too.

in games just with the effect 24 (for the test, I took the one that) is terrible!
the response of the simulator is bad.

is it still, or it exceeds the target, or it stay on the target, and it continued ...
it does not feel good.

my air flow limiter connection:

I see one problem. (maybe not to important)
You set the airflow limit, for some kind of speed. Calculating with one cylinder. When there both cylinders work, its use same output (limited to one), half speed. The velocity will not be constant.


!!!! I think about it in the morning with coffee , may be moving onto the left you have to reduce the left side cylinder. (You see this)
Synaptrix to the left:
2 and 8 valve open to slow
4 and 6 valve to normal
2 + 4 + 6 + 8 to fast

My experiences right if i do not use the joy-X and Y axis. Better way the real forces.

is the same logic as in my diagram (there are inversion, but it is not serious, so I did)
I will submit 2 valve, I had forgotten that the speed may be different on the cylinder!

thank you for your help

i make a vidéo witth my G25 in pot input:
with 4 air flow limiter its the slow speed i think its that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7hUll5Zs4o&feature=channel_page

and this video its in GTR2 with effect 24, speed and 27 force longitudinal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQEfKNtYnDI&feature=channel
look, bleu point move and red dot dont move or it move and continue its not correct i dont understand why!

What happens if I put the pot under the seat?
because the EGO council, it is on actuators, but I do not know why and what it is if I put it?

when using a joystik, it works, so why not put the pot under the seat?

a string potentiometer my top are sensitive? there is a problem with potentiometer can be?