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Tutorial SMC3 Arduino 3DOF Motor Driver and Windows Utilities

Discussion in 'SimTools compatible interfaces' started by RufusDufus, Dec 1, 2013.

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  1. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Then just use the Pololu software to cofig, instead of SMC3, and select JRK in the Interface Settings to config o the SimTools side.

    See the JRK FAQ section for setup instructions and more: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/jrk.8/category
    noorbeast, Oct 5, 2020
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  2. Manuel Quiterio Sousa

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  3. Manuel Quiterio Sousa

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    Hi. I am still lost. the pololu driver I'm using is the one in the photo attached. it doesnt seem to be a JRK .
    Manuel Quiterio Sousa, Oct 6, 2020
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    That driver is not supported and completely inadequate for a motion sim anyway. It would use mode 2 if anything but that was made to drive the ibt-2 driver and it uses a non-standard wiring setup for it.
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    BlazinH, Oct 7, 2020
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  5. Manuel Quiterio Sousa

    Manuel Quiterio Sousa Maqs Gold Contributor

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    Thanks for the feedback. What driver then do you suggest for 24V DC motors?
    Manuel Quiterio Sousa, Oct 7, 2020
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  6. BlazinH

    BlazinH Well-Known Member

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    An ibt-2 will do 24v but they're not reliable so I can't recommend them. Sabertooth controllers are good and recommended but more expensive.
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    BlazinH, Oct 7, 2020
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  7. Manuel Quiterio Sousa

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    Thanks. I'll try them out
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    Hi
    I have a problem
    upload_2020-10-31_10-46-43.png
    with the settings in the Sim Tools Game Engine
    I have a feeling
    that most of the settings in
    Axis Assigments
    -Filter doesn't work
    best regards
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    tadek, Oct 31, 2020
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    Hi
    What are the factors for smc3
    like
    Kp
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    to use all the options in Sim Tools?
    tadek, Oct 31, 2020
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    The SMC3 settings are for the purpose of configuring the code to refine the response of your rig, independent of SimTools: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/#post-48121

    SimTools setting take game data for motion cues: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/rtfm-start-with-the-official-simtools-documentation.117/

    Both are related in the sense that combined they allow motion but are 2 separate things in terms of SMC3 tuning the hardware and SimTools tuning the motion cues.
    noorbeast, Oct 31, 2020
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    thank you
    I thought so
    So first in arduino I enter the coefficients from SMC3Utils v1.01
    at which the platform behaves best
    and then I run sim tools
    Could I get a help
    which coefficients should I enter in Arduino SMC3
    and what should be the value so that most parameters can be set with Sim Tools
    best regards
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    There are no 'magic numbers' for SMC3 settings, it is really about tuning to get the most out of the particular hardware you are using.

    While I wrote this layman's guide to PID with JRKs in mind, the principals are the same in terms of PID tuning: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/a-laymans-analogy-guide-to-pids-pid-tuning.219/
    noorbeast, Oct 31, 2020
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    Please help - I haven't used my seat mover for a few months. Was working fine, now it's not - I cannot figure this out. Not sure if Windows updates have caused an issue. Motors run fine through SMC3 - however, game engine output testing - no response? Everything still seems to be configured correctly. I'm really stumped. See screenshot of my config. And I did close SMC3 util before running game engine. I have the exceptions for game engine configured in my Windows Defender firewall settings. I really don't know what's wrong.

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    Andrew Eccles, Nov 1, 2020
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    Hello
    Can I ask for an explanation of the parameters in Arduino :sos

    PWMrev
    PWMout
    PWMoffset
    tadek, Nov 1, 2020
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    @Andrew Eccles Did you closed SMC and then started GameEngine? I made that mistake a few days ago. Going to go crazy but then i get helped here. I did not know that smc has to be closed before GameEngine start!
    Özden Büyüksanalan, Nov 1, 2020
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    Integer values used for various calculations, but if you can't follow those don't mess with the code.
    noorbeast, Nov 1, 2020
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    Hi
    I understand
    that I do the settings first in SMC3Utils v1.01
    I do not change anything in the Arduino SMC3 code?
    best regards
    tadek, Nov 1, 2020
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    The only thing that is edited in SMC3 code is Mode1 or Mode2, depending on the hardware used. All of the SMC3 configuration is explained in the first 2 posts: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/

    Please keep all future questions regarding configuration of your rig to your build thread, as it gets way too difficult for other members to know what has been responded to and what has not.
    noorbeast, Nov 2, 2020
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    Yes - made that mistake a few months ago :) It's closed. I've uninstalled simtools and resintalled. Still nothing from output testing :(
    Andrew Eccles, Nov 2, 2020
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    I tried uninstalling and reinstalling to the latest 2.5.1. and checked my .net framework - everything seems to be in order. When I start output testing - the motors start chattering i.e. some comms are going through. But the sliders do nothing. When Running PC2 the same thing when starting a race - the motors make a little noise. but no movement. As stated when running SMC3 - the motors run fine. At the point of nearly giving up on this now - I've read the manual about three times. Done everything textbook and still no joy. I work in IT and am tech savvy - this really has me stumped. Invested a lot of time and money into the setup - I just can't get it to work like it should :(
    Andrew Eccles, Nov 2, 2020
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