Tronic's AMC motor motion-controller with pwm/servo output

There are no problems because with the AMC, you don't use synaptrix, you don't use welleman card.

Simple USO setup to send out information for 2 axis. AMC calculates the error from axis information and their feedback pots, then proportionally drive the PWM signal, which is the speed of the motor. 2 direction signals control forward/reverse.

All you need is to convert PWM pulses to analog voltage, connect VFD analog in to this signal, and connect digital directions to direction input of VFD.

(I have already told you this a couple times in your sim thread... )

so come on, Riton, Thanos, Frakk, and all friends of Egooexpress
forum, I think it's possible to drive using only analog signal and
why not? I'll give a simple example

if 0v = turn left to its own analog signal through
VFD setup says that 0v = turn left to 100%
speed.

= 5v to stop the engine, when the board send 5 volts the VFD will understand that
is to stop.


get 10 volts when the signal will understand that the engine will spin direction
to right at 100% speed using only analog controls.

another example when you have 7.5 volts, the VFD will understand that the engine
will turn to the right with 50% speed. the analog signal is a signal
reference to whether the engine will work with Hz or -60 + 60
hertz. when you have 4.5 volts the motor will be turning towards the left
with 10% speed almost stopping, because when you get 5 volts it
for spinning. I think now I could explain my idea will
trying to make a simple chart.

Sure it does work, if your VFD is configurable that way. Riton' Omron V7 VFD is not. Somehow there is a lot of confusion about the issue. I dont know why...

I don't think I could have explained the solutions any better, or put my sentences together any simpler...

Maybe it is the language barrier, or Google Translator playing jokes with us?

I guess the confusion is based on the fact, that Riton is comparing his Omron V7 + Velleman K8055 setup with robbervalll' programmable VFD + AMC setup.
I think as Riton is not aware of the AMC features yet, he has a lack of understanding, how robbervallll is going to connect his setup.
Imho it is better to separate both issues in separate threads...Or at least deal with them one at a time...

yes it possible if the VFD is compatible to run with only analog for speed and direction.
but i don't found any VFD with this possibility.

i must speack with a french ingenieur WEG to obtain a responce for this point.

Yes, you are probably right. And I posted the solution to both scenarios, with and without digital direction signals.

cool friends, I know the configuration of Omron V7 + Velleman is slightly different configuration of the AMC 1.5, more in theory the basis of principle I think it's the same is not it, I also use the google translator and always have some difference in language.

I made a nice little diagram to illustrate what I'm saying, I spoke with an engineer from WEG and he told me that you can configure using only analog signal, turn left and right with acceleration ramp, he said yes it works, hence it is missing just a new firmware is not it? Why the current firmware says 5 volts = 100% speed digital signals and they tell where the engine will backfire.

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Ok, here is a firmware that has PWM outputs set with CENTER being 5V. That means that the position control algorithm will let the potentiometer seek for 5 volt for center (stop) position. IT DOES NOT output any digital direction signals, only the two PWM ports are working.

PWM_AMC15_2DOF_V1_1A_10BIT_INPUT_ANALOG.zip

In the zip there are two firmwares, one for 22.1184 Mhz and one for 18.4320 Mhz. Since is 10-bit resolution, you need to set certain settings in the USO in X-sim profiler as they are presented here: tronic-s-amc-motor-motion-controller-with-pwm-servo-output-t559-620.html#p14488

Good luck testing!

Regards, Thanos

Thanos only have one doubt my plate she uses a 24MHz crystal, you
would have the firmware for this crystal? or should replace the crystal by one of
22.1184 Mhz 18.4320 Mhz or one of?

The Atmega8535 is rated for 16MHz maximum. What do you think is going to happen when you overclock it to 150%?

18.432MHz should be the highest frequency used with this chip. And even then you can expect stability problems with some of the batches.

roberballl:
you have already buy your VFD?
what is the name , ref and price, just for ask about with the seller un france
thanks

Hellow riton then not yet bought my first VFD I was researching whether the VFD
accept the configuration 0 ... 5 ... 10v and saw that almost everyone accepts that
configuration, I consulted several experts and qualified persons and all
said the same thing, I'm seeing a mini Yaskawa j7 of 1/3cv used by
roughly $ 100 dollars, and a new WEG 1cv is in the range of $ 300
U.S. dollars.

hum...i don't see this possibility in the mini J7 Yaskawa it is the same like my OMRON mini J7....

if you have more information about how configure setting and where is in the manuel, i'm interested.

i think with this mini J7 Yaskawa, it's not possible, but i will very happy if it really possible.

Hello Riton engineer at Yaskawa then returned me the link with
important information mini j7 not accept this setting only
J1000 and the Yaskawa V1000, he told me that the mini was discontinued and j7
was replaced by J1000, and he auditioned at the factory to 0 ... 5 ... 10v
and said that yes it works is a matter of configuration only. it cheered me up
I'm quoting enough to buy that J1000 is climbing, and the V1000 is
scalar and vector that compensates for the loss of torque, is a bit more
expensive.

for the J1000, i don't see any difference...
http://industrial.omron.fr/fr/products/ ... fault.html
look page 7 in section téléchargement/ data sheet
i think there are a problem this is the same configuration.

Riton hi, how good do not quite understand, I think as the engineer does not
works more with the mini j7 is not an advantage for him to be on explaining
he only said he tested with the J1000 and V1000 and the second run, but I think
the mini j7 also works this way, it's about connecting the bracket
Yaskawa Technical and ask how does this setting, you have reason
the base is the same.

have you some news about a possible connection with a VFD in correct configuration -100%.....0.....+100%?
have you obtain a reference material and a seller name OMRON.....

helle for all, sorry for my bad english...i have some dude i want build this sim for a flight sim...and y want know if is posible turn 360º in the axis...for a looping..example.
the structure is no the problem, but the soft and the motor..have power to do this?and the soft?

THANKS FOR ALL

Hello everyone.
i need to buy the two PCB boards , AVR and H-bridge by tronicgr .
Anybody can sell me?
I have many problems to create them, and I have ruined 4 PCB
thank you very much to all