Vive price leaked $799 USD

Well HTC has charged my card for my Vive pre-order today, which is more than I can say for Oculus.

I think it very likely that I will have the Vive first, as only a few US Kickstarter backers have got a Rift and nobody with pre-orders.

I am getting both, but have to say I feel Oculus has really botched its CV launch.

The problem with the Rift Touch controllers is the uncertain delivery time frame, which the botched launch does not help, the unknown cost and for international customers the unknown cost of shipping. Oculus charges US $132 for shipping the Rift to Australia, so it is a significant unknown for the Touch controllers.

At least the Vive is the complete package at launch. And so far Oculus has set the bar really low for what constitutes a successful CV launch.

You are most welcome to visit, the view from the guest room is a bit hard to take

I think this needs a bit of a context, 11 hrs straight of VR was not a good idea when they did it with the Rift and it is no better of an idea for the Vive.

Reviews do vary, and for different reasons, but at least here is a bit of a global overview: http://www.metacritic.com/feature/htc-vive-vr-headset-reviews

Even within the flight/space and race sim genre, which are ideal sit down VR experiences, quality VR support is pretty slim pickings. Content limitations are inherent in VR being a new consumer technology.

I consider the current crop of launch games are tech demos, including the likes of EVE: Valkyrie. It will be years yet before there is AAA style VR games.

The best in terms of extensive game play is where quality VR support is added, like with LFS, ED, Pcars, DCS and Flyinside for FSX and P3D. For me these titles are now pretty lame without VR.

I don't think general consumers should just jump into VR, it is still a very niche area at the moment and will be for some time yet. I would say the same of commercial motion sims. But for specific early adopters using quality VR supported titles, particularly with DIY motion sims, it is an awesome experience and in my view is worth the steep investment.

There will be differences between the Rift and Vive in what is supported or not, but what runs on the CV1 Rift should also run on the DK2, at least for now. However, one of the difficulties at the moment is that VR is a bit of a mix of the old and the new, so AC needs the old runtime while Pcars is best on the latest runtime. I suspect the majority here will likely use Steam versions, but there has already been someone ask about the Oculus Home specific version of Pcars. In other words it is going to be a bit messy for a little while

@Historiker has created and collected a bunch of existing VR information in a specific VR section, so there is now a place to gather the VR contributions from everyone: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/vr-headsets-and-gaming-virtual-reality.160/

I can then create a specific VR entry in the Games section of the FAQs, so it is easier to find relevant posts from the VR thread section.

Shipping is $110 US. Total = $1009.00 and I believe import duties may also apply.

It is over AU $1000 so GST applies and likely HTC has done what Oculus did, registered for GST.

My Vive is scheduled to arrive by Thursday, we shall see as currently it is in GUANGZHOU CN. But I do have my fingers and toes crossed.